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Sen. Anderson Urges Light Punishment of Marines in Taliban Urination Video

He and eight other Republican state senators write Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to go easy.

 

Nine GOP lawmakers in Sacramento led by Sen. Joel Anderson have signed a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta urging him not to court-martial Marines videotaped urinating on dead Taliban fighters.

The state senators who signed the 280-word letter dated Feb. 21 said they agreed with Rep. Duncan D. Hunter that the Marines should be disciplined but not face possible prison time.

 “We concur with Congressmen Duncan Hunter and Alan West concerning the punishment being considering for the U.S. Marines involved in the recently leaked video,” said the letter signed by Anderson, Tom Berryhill, Bob Dutton, Bill Emmerson, Ted Gaines, Bob Huff, Doug La Malfa, Tony Strickland, Mimi Walters and Mark Wyland.

“The actions of the Marines were disgusting and totally wrong. However, the incident needs to be taken in the proper context of the battlefield conditions.”

The letter noted “numerous instances of atrocities to captured U.S. troops and civilians. Can you ever forget those awful scenes of U.S. soldiers being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu or when Blackwater contractors were killed, their bodies burned and hung from a bridge in Fallujah?”

The letter asserted: “As Congressman West so rightfully pointed out, there was no indignation from the news media or outrage from the government when Americans were killed or mistreated.”

Anderson, a one-time La Mesa resident, represents the 36th Senate District, which covers a vast area of East County and eastern North San Diego County. He graduated from Grossmont College.

Related Topics: Rep. Duncan D. Hunter and State Sen. Joel Anderson

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KaraLamb

5:56 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Yes, how about that! I agree!

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Steve Mehlman

11:19 am on Friday, February 24, 2012

Even Anderson and Hunter recognize that what they did was WRONG. And you think they should not get any punishment? What kind of message does that send to our young people?

And that stuff about atrocities by Al Queda, etc., does not excuse this. "They did it so we can, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah" is not the kiind of military discipline we need.

KaraLamb

5:55 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

. However, the incident needs to be taken in the proper context of the battlefield conditions.”

The letter noted “numerous instances of atrocities to captured U.S. troops and civilians. Can you ever forget those awful scenes of U.S. soldiers being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu or when Blackwater contractors were killed, their bodies burned and hung from a bridge in Fallujah?”

The letter asserted: “As Congressman West so rightfully pointed out, there was no indignation from the news media or outrage from the government when Americans were killed or mistreated.” Exactly.

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Steve Mehlman

11:22 am on Friday, February 24, 2012

That is a flat-out lie by Congressman West.

Americans do not tolerate seeing their sons and daughters killed or mistreated. But neither do they condone or applaud outrageous actions like those these Marines were guilty of.

Gary

7:02 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

“We concur with Congressmen Duncan Hunter and Alan West concerning the punishment being considering for the U.S. Marines involved in the recently leaked video,” ...THE RECENTLY LEAKED VIDEO...? LMAO

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Ted

7:59 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Not to worry, Sen. Anderson. The USMC chose not to punish anyone involved in a massacre of 24 civilians in Iraq except the SSG squad leader, who got a general discharge under honorable conditions, a reduction in rank and no jail time (except what he served while awaiting a court martial). Based on that, maybe the urine squad will get a Good Conduct medals!

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Batman

8:09 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

I agree with the senator. Let it slide. Why throw the book at these Marines when we are letting millions of illegal aliens get away with breaking our laws?

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Doug Curlee

9:07 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

gotta disagree with most of you..i understand combat, and i understand the pressures that places on people..

that said, we're supposed to be better than that..we're supposed to be better people than that.. and our marines are specifically educated on how to behave on the battlefield..and in that enviroment.. to sink to doing something like that makes us no better than the people we're over there fighting..

kill them in combat, because they're trying to kill yoiu.,. that's fine..

peeing on their bodies..not fine..

we can have the debate about WHY the hell we're over there killing them another time..and we can have the debate about why anyone would support what alan west says about anything another time, too..

doug

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Joe Spencer

11:12 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Kevin:

Doug and I have agreed on posts and disagreed on posts....funny thing is he has never made any comments like that to me. WHY? Likely because I understand the facts of what I am arguing. He may not agree with what I am saying...but he probably sees that I at least understand what I am talking about. Many posts come from people who just dont have a freaking clue.

Example...the power plant discussion on Santee Patch. My lord some of those people just dont get it. They have no understanding of who the correct people are to complain to about it nor do they have an understanding of the Brown Act which restricts a quorum of city council members going to meetings or speaking to anybody. Yet they want the council out in force. Its THEN that Doug tells people...after about the 4th or 5th time of trying to explain things that he tells them to read the english language.

And for that....I dont blame him.

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Kevin George

11:18 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

No problem Joe, I enjoy a spirited conversation.
The list of people that I think " just don't get it" is probably as long as yours, but that list is a ubiquitous human trait.
My problem with doug( sic) is his air of superiority fueled by his belief that being a " newsman" somehow gives him special insight.

James Jones

11:54 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Agree with him or disagree, "Screw you Doug" is uncalled for on a forum of opinions.

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James Jones

12:36 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Aaaah, much better! Do you have any other intelligent comments to add to the discussion? I'm guessing that this is about all you have.

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Steven Bartholow

12:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Batman- that is not allowed in these forums. The first attack on Doug crossed the line, and would have been deleted except for the comments in reply are worth keeping, but you can't use that language here. It's simple: Don't attack anyone, just use facts to debate, and don't use language that is obscene. This is warning #1, get three and you get suspended.

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Doug Curlee

12:45 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

most of you are not getting what i'm saying..
i uderstand what the 19-year old gangbanger did..how the hell does pissing on the dead bodies of taliban exact any revenge for that?

and who said the united states marine corps is suipposed to be in the revenge business, anyway?..they're NOT..

the marine coprs is america's light attack force in wars that need that kind of expertise..they have a clearly defined mission, which i respect highly, and which they generally perform extremely well.. generally, i'm as proud of the marine corps as any ex-naval officer could possibly be..(they ARE part of the navy, after all..)

i am NOT at all proud of what those marines did.. and i'm having a hard time understanding how any of you COULD be proud of it..

doug

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Kevin George

1:04 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Doug, obviously this discussion has gotten a little broad.
The article concerns the amount of punishment that is appropriate in this case.
The Senator says he against a Court-martial at all.
You have voiced an opinion on other peoples opinions but not your own stance.
What, in your opinion, is an appropriate action in this case?

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Batman

1:30 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Put them on KP and latrine scrubbing duty for while and then put them back on regular duty. There is no need to put them away. These were not civilians, they were enemy combatants... and they were dead as doornails. You can argue it was out of line but to my knowledge war often involves doing bad things to your enemy. Compared to what was done to our troops by the Japanese during WWII this is nothing, $%# nothing. As for the lingo, I apologize. I tend to forget there are people under 18 reading these posts. But I am not letting up on you Mr. Curlee. Far too many of you in the media have this &#$$ on America attitude. These young sailors, soldiers and Marines are the best people our counrty has. It makes me sick to see the media glorifying those filthy occupy protesters who @#$$ and %$#@ on the ground like animals and then trash the Marines over an isolated incident that amounts to nothing.

Batman

2:02 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

And another thing. Who took the footage of the Marines "doing their duty" on the taliban? Was it another Marine? A civilian? The media? I'd really like to know. Maybe you can use your fabulous journalistic skill to find this out Doug.

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James Jones

2:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

I agree. For me, most of my frustration over this is the attitude in recent years, of a lot of people that are so quick to blame America first. Much less is made of the fact that we are fighting a bunch of sub-human animals that blow up innocent humans (not combatants) in the name of their "God". How about murdering women because they "disgraced their family". But no, we can't criticize them, that's their culture. The same culture that riots and kills people because some books got disposed of. One last point, why does it matter to them if their bodies are being urinated on? At that point aren't they all in Mecca, sleeping with a bunch of virgins, right?

Doug Curlee

3:33 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

well, i'll tell you, batman..war does involved doing bad thinbgs to your enemy..like KILLING them..

and the practices of the japanese in world war have exactly..WHAT?..to do with this question?..

i think those marines should be separated from the service..honorably, if you want.. but i'm not sure they need to be out there anymore..probably as much for their own good as for the good of the service..

and the media "glorifying" the occupy people (with whom i disagreed, by the way) again has..WHAT?..to do with this debate?..

as for who took the peeing video.. i don't know, and i frankly don't care

as regards my attitude as a member of the media?..you have no idea whatever what MY attitude is, so i'll explain it to you simply..

i'm a vietnam combat veteran.. what's been YOUR contribution?..

kevin.. hope this answers your question about what i think should be done about them..

doug

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Kevin George

4:07 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Unless I missed something I figure "i think those marines should be separated from the service..honorably," takes care of it.

Thanks for your service and please accept my apologies for being a sub- Citizen in that I did not serve in the manner you expected.
FYI: I turned 18 in 1969, registered for the draft where I was deemed 1A . I still have my draft card if you would like to see it. I went to LA for my physical but for some reason was never called.
So for the record, I did my due diligence.

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Batman

4:27 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

I'm quite curious where the video came from. I suspect they may have been "egged on" just so someone could capture some incriminating footage. And, if they're not smart enough to avoid a camera when doing something like this pehaps they shouldn't be retuned to combat. But this does not warrant a court martial or even a dishonorable discharge. If you want to hang somebody then hang that $#%@#$$ Bradley Manning. He jepoardized his fellow servicemen with his little stunt. Oh, BTW, I have never served in the military. I doubt I'd survive Marine Corps basic training

Doug Curlee

4:21 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

kebin..
nobody said you didn't do your due diligence.. and i'm sure that, had you been called, you'd have gone and done your duty and done it well..nobody called you a sub-citizen.. my comment there was directed toward batman..who seems to be angry at everything..

he's doing what too many do to advance a political thesis..assigning beliefs to people he doesn't really know.. assuming that since i was a member of the media for r42 years, i MUST necessarily be anti-american..when in fact he has no more idea what goes on in my head than what i put on this site..

but i guess i'm one of THEM, you know..because he thinks so...i'd talk with him anytime.. but somehow i doubt that he'll ever come up to me and ask..that might reveal his identity, and i suppose we can't have that,. can we?..

doug

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Batman

4:51 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Doug you are one of them for 42 years. Yeah, you're not as left leaning as most, which isn't saying much. I'm not angry at everything, just a few things. The few things I'm angry about seem to pop up frequenly here on Patch. I did meet you some years ago when you were still on active duty with Channel 39.

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Doug Curlee

5:49 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

further info..i'm guessing here, and the marines ain't sayin'..but, from the language reportedly used by the person who shot the video, i'd be willing to bet the video swas in fact shot by a fifth marine there at the time..he talked about the marines doing the peeing in terms of their units and subunits.. tghe wordage reads as pure military.

doug

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